willing to destroy the system that's what he because he's a rucker, americans have lost the fundamental love of liberty, the fundamental virtues that are required in our system it is not enough to only want freedom and liberty for yourself in our system, you have to want it for everyone. and if you don't have that sort of sense of liberal virtue, that belief he found in these universal values then you're willing to allow someone who is going to destroy them to take power. >> and right after that interview time magazine released this cover story with trump himself confirming those worst fears. asked about all this talk about ending american democracy. he said i think a lot of people like it. >> you can watch the rest of our conversation online that amanpour.com and find all of our shows online wherever you get your podcasts from. >> i'm christiane amanpour in london. thank you for watching. we're off next week, but bag may 18 so see you then hello

everyone. thank you so much for joining me this saturday on fredricka whitfield are we begin this hour with college campuses? on edge bracing for pro-palestinian protests. as many schools across the country hold commencement ceremonies this weekend. a demonstration already causing a disruption i'm sure nothing university of michigan protesters interrupted a graduation ceremony at the school of music, theater and dance last night. meantime, the university of southern california announced it is holding a small family graduate celebration, one week after canceling the main graduation ceremony over safety concerns protests that engulfed schools for weeks have resulted in the arrests of more than 2,100 people on about 40 separate campuses in 20 five states.

cnn's whitney wild is at the university of michigan on that campus, and whitney, we've already seen a disruption at a ceremony there last night. what but are the expectations there today well, it's interesting. >> frederica, the graduation here at the university of michigan has just wrapping up. this is the massive spring commencement 90,000 people inside michigan stadium the big house. this is a huge event and when as you're walking around the stadium. prior to the ceremony, recent no indication hi, there would be protests. we didn't see groups of protesters it looks like any other college graduation, but during the ceremony, around 15 minutes in a group of protesters dan chanting and briefly disrupted the secretary of the navy as he gave his remarks. and so let me give you a sense of how close the protesters got to the stage. frederico. so right here here to my left is where the stages. and then if we just swing around here to my right, it was down this main this main aisle here justice got about halfway

through and it was right there, right in the middle of michigan's field bed i'd say, maybe a dozen, two dozen protesters gathered and began channel very clearly pro israel chance. michigan state police were on them almost immediately because i think there was a major concern that they would get closer to the stage so the red michigan state police on top of those protesters immediately, there was not a clash with police. it was very peaceful, although there was it was very clear protocol let's just we're not getting any farther. again, this happened right as the secretary of the navy, carlos del toro speak here is that moment michigan is the industrial heartland of america you are the arsenal of democracy and it is indeed it

is indeed these young men and women who will protect the freedoms that we so cherish as americans in our constitution of the united states, which includes the right to protest peacefully but are we got, there were students who were supportive of those protesters within were a lot of students were very frustrated in the proud one student told me that he believed there was a time and place with this type of protests. but it is certainly not at this spring commencement, something that these graduates have been waiting for years to go through. so certainly some frustration in the crash out above above michigan stadium. there were protest signs as well. there was one airplane that was flying by that was very clearly for pro-israel that said that we stand with israel and then there was another airplane that fluid bly by with another flag that's was very clearly supportive of palestine. and then around

michigan stadium you saw israeli flags as well as palestinian flags. frederico. so certainly both sides of this very emotionally charged situation represented here today at michigan, back to you all right. >> what you while thank you so much. i know though that threw it all. i'm sure there are a lot of families and graduate sort are glad they had an opportunity to enjoy the ceremonies. even though there were a lot of things going on. all right. wendy wild, appreciate it. all right. to mexico now where the story of three missing tourists may have come to a gruesome end mexican authorities confirmed three bodies were found on a cliff friday, near where an american and two australians went missing. officials did not say if the remains belonged to the missing tourists, but a forensic exam is now underway. a burned-out truck, the friends were driving has been found, and three mexican citizens have been arrested for kidnapping. the missing australians who are brothers. and their american friend were on a surfing trip near and sonata, mexico when a

family member says they lost contact late april, journalists stefano stefano pozzebon is a covering these developments for us. so stefano, what, what are you learning unfortunately fredricka, not many news updates today, perhaps because it's the weekend, perhaps because authorities are really waiting to see the results of those forensic examination, basically, it's a dna match to identify those bodies that were found early on friday morning from a a cliff about 50 miles south of ensenada. >> and authorities believed they could be in there could be these bodies could be related to the missing is appearing. surfers, of course, it's a moment of great frantic anxiety for the family. we know thanks to cnn international news gathering that the family of the australian brothers, who are native from perth, western australia, are currently on

their way towards the united states. i imagined going to los angeles and then crossing into mexico to try to be as close as possible to the scene of these investigation as well as help out with that forensic examination. the dna match to identify the identity of those three bodies that they were found when i've data from mexican authorities that late last night on friday night, was that the three mexican nationals who have been brought into question in earlier this week have actually been detained that with the. alleged accusation of kidnapping. so there is any investigation ongoing we contacted the fbi late last night. they told us they are standing by that providing all the system that i can buy that right now, it's a moment of waster and to just be around there results of that forensic examination. so we hope fredricka to bring you the next development in the coming hours well, look forward to

that. >> stefano pozzebon thank you so much are no relief in sight for texans today as a deluge of water in on dates parts of the state, communities north of houston saw the heaviest rainfall picking up nearly two months of rain in one day and causing rivers to rise to levels not seen since the devastating floods of hurricane harvey back in 2017. been in woodblock, people were rescued from floodwaters after mandatory evacuations forced them from their homes. and in livingston, several days of downpours closed roads as you see right there are more than a third of texas texas counties have already been declared disaster areas by governor greg abbott and addition she'll counties could be added in the coming days, particularly with more storms in the forecast, allison chinchar is tracking all of this so it's not over. there's more on the way. right? the last thing they possibly need is more rain, but yes, unfortunately, that and then also some severe thunderstorms too. it's not

just the rnc component, but yes, you take a look at video like this and lean is literally the last thing this area needs. this is from livingston texas earlier. this is what has contributed to so many of the rivers, creeks, and streams in this area really swelling up all of these. you've got 37 minor, 14, moderate, and 13 major river gauges at flood stage. so again, you are talking about pretty he's significant widespread flooding problem here and it's because of how much rain has fallen. look at this widespread, these areas have picked up six to ten inches. but were you see that pink now, you're talking 15 even 20 inches of rain in just the last five days, we've got flood watches in effect, yes, because the ground is already saturated, but also because we have more rain on the way, you can see some of the showers already starting to develop. now the heaviest rain going forward is actually going to be more focused across central texas. you can see here from waco over to san angelo, down through san antonio. but even houston will still get some rain. and at this point, even one inch but given how much is

already on the ground. so it's not going to take all that much and yes, we also talked about the severe component. the focus is over texas, but keep in mind any of those strong storms could make it up towards little rock, oklahoma city, st. louis, and even up into chicago, very large hail damaging wins and strong wind gusts. if we get a confirm tornado today, fred, this would be the tenth day in a row of a confirmed tornado. there has been a lot of torn activity rainfall this spring, and it's not it's far from over unfortunately, yes. >> right. all right. thank you so much. allison chinchar. i appreciate it. >> all right. hope hicks, she was a top aide for donald trump during the 2016 campaign and inside the white house this week, she became the latest prosecution witness to testify at his hush money trial for significant and at times emotional testimony. straight ahead plus texas congressman henry cuellar is proclaiming his and his wife's innocence after both are indicted, accused of accepting nearly

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noticeably uncomfortable well, as she avoided eye contact with her former boss. and after key moment in her testimony, she began crying cnn's kara scannell was in the courtroom and has details hope hicks, once one of trump's closest aides took the stand friday, in emotional day of testimony at one point, even tearing up on day 11 of trump's criminal trial so i'm, not allowed to comment on any of that. >> as you know, i'm under a gag order. i was very interested in what took place today. >> hicks, who was trump's campaign spokesperson in 2016, and later served as white house communications director, looked visibly uncomfortable before testifying saying she was really nervous prosecutors quickly brought up the access hollywood tape, which was released just one month before the 2016 election, when you were started there left to do it. >> hicks recalled trump being upset. >> she said there was a

consensus among campaign leadership that the tape was damaging to the campaign, and it was a crisis she said media coverage of the tape was so intense, it literally knocked a category four hurricane out of the news cycle. hope said it was all trump, all the time for the next 36 hours, hicks testified that trump was involved in the campaigns response prosecutors played his video apology for the jury. >> anyone who knows me knows these words, don't reflect who i am. i said it. i was wrong and i apologize. >> prosecutors tried to show that catastrophic impact the access hollywood tape had on trump's campaign, demonstrating the urgency to kill another bombshell story from being released just weeks before the election hicks testified she was sitting on the plane when she learned that the wall street journal plans to publish a piece about the national enquirer's catch-and-kill deal involving trump's alleged affair with an x playboy model, karen mcdougal, and adult-film star stormy daniel's trump denies the affairs. hicks said she

spoke with trump who was concerned about the story, and he instructed her to deny it. she is quoted in the journal saying daniel's a fair allegation is absolutely unequivocally untrue hicks said trump's was concerned with how the article would be viewed by his wife saying he wanted me to make sure that the newspapers warrant delivered to his residence that morning prosecutors aztecs about trump's former lawyer, michael cohen's $130,000 payment to daniels to buy and kill her story of an alleged affair with trump cohen told the new york times in 2018 that he made the payment from his own pocket hicks said she was skeptical about cohen's motives, saying, i didn't know michael to be in especially charitable person or selfless person, higgs described trump's assessment of the story, saying it was mr. trump's opinion is that it was better to be dealing with it now and that it would have been bad it's i have that story come out before the election. has trump's attorney, emile bove, you went to take over questioning. hicks began to cry after a break, bogey focused on

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that's part of the gathering and you're completely right, fred donald trump has traded the new york courtroom for banquet halls. here in florida and look at this is part of a longer weekend with the rnc, their hosting their annual retreat here in palm beach. and today actually just moments ago, they all traveled from the four seasons since to mar-a-lago, were donald trump is going to be the headliner at a fundraiser for his campaign. and that's very notable because we've seen donald trump really instead of campaigning, he's been doing a lot of fundraisers part of that is his campaign is really trying to aggressively catch up to the biden campaign's ever-growing war trust. and that's kind of what we're seeing behind the scenes here. a lot of people healthy donors who are in the room trying to help donald trump close that gap. but this retreat often brings together a lot of the republican elite. there's always wealthy donors there's other high-profile republican leaders. but some of the special guests this year are notable because many of them are on donald trump's shortlist to become his running mate.

now, when i talk to trump's advisers, they tell me that donald trump is not anywhere close to choosing his vice presidential pick. however, they do think that'll come closer to the republican national convention in july. but this weekend is a good opportunity for some of these people like ohio senator j.d. vance, north dakota governor doug burgum, south carolina, senator tim scott. all them to brush shoulders with the former president and show that they are within this weekend. >> okay. and then alaina house speaker johnson's presence at the retreat is also pretty notable given that representative marjorie taylor greene has promised to bring up a vote to oust him next week. what are you hearing well, that's right. >> johnson actually was speaking last night out a panel at the start of this fundraising, we can add the force he's ends and his appearance here and his attendance is very notable of what i can say is marjorie taylor greene is not here and i spoke with the congressman last night who said her absence is also notable now, this putin

between johnson and marjorie taylor greene is something i'm told that donald trump has been annoyed with behind the scenes. he does not want this sort of distraction happening in the house. particular really just months before the election. and he actually tapped as an emissary of sorts, michael whatley, the chairman of the republican national committee to travel to the capital earlier this week and deliver a message that donald trump is not interested in a divided party fred? >> interesting. all right, alayna treene. thanks so much all right. >> right. now, negotiators are meeting in cairo in hopes of finalizing a ceasefire deal between israel and hamas. what could that deal look like? >> that's next a florida man is hospitalized, infected with anthrax to borrow this became the bureau's number one crying to solve how with really happen with jesse l. >> martin. mall would nine on

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from american officials and we did learn just yesterday that the cia director bill burns was in cairo for these toxin that's always a significant moment. he has been sort of a key mediator in these discussions. so it does appear that were at something of a critical juncture here. but remember fredricka, we have been in this place before where it seems where we're entering the final stages only to see a deal fall apart, which i think explains some of the caution that you're hearing from officials at this moment. the view from washington is that the ball is very much in hamas's court to agree to the framework deal that was proposed more than a week ago american officials have said that is the israelis relented on a number of points in that deal, including the number of hoss ditches that would be released as part of the first stage. now, the question really is whether hamas can agree to it and we did hear from the american secretary of state, antony blinken last night describing sort of where things

stand, listened to what he said we wait to see whether an effect they can take yes for an answer on the ceasefire and release of hostages and the reality in this moment is the only thing standing between the people of gaza and a ceasefire is a moss now, we did learn today from american and israeli officials that even if hamas were to agree to this framework, there would still be some final details that would need to be ironed out, that could be potentially a long process. >> so you won't see those hostages coming out, right when that agreement is struck but certainly american officials very a hopeful that this still could be struck sometime soon. fredricka. >> all right. kevin limped jack. thanks so much are meantime here in the college campuses are bracing for more protests against the war in gaza, more than 2,100 people have been arrested on campuses across the country in recent weeks. some schools have canceled commencement addresses and ceremonies over security

concerns with us. now, as omar vidar, he has a palestinian american middle east political analysts, a great to see you, omar thank. you. >> good to be with you. >> so how will you be measuring the gains or the losses that have come from the variation of protests across college and university campuses in the look, i think they've already been significant gains those protesters are the conscience of america at a time when american weapons are being used to kill literally tens of thousands of children. it's just an unconscionable situation. and the fact that even in the face of official divinization from the rhetoric that we've seen from not just people like tom cotton and others, but, but many other people across the entire political spectrum you also see significant police violence. you also see counter-protestors be attacking them. and yet the resilience of this protest movement in the fact that it's spreading rather than shrinking is a sign of the this is really

a wake-up call for washington, that business, as usual, cannot continue while american weapons are being used for these kind of atrocities that israel is actually currently committing in gaza. and this is you know, there's not going to be a way in which young people are just going to let this one go. the comfort that president biden has coming into this upcoming election also shaken by the fact that a significant portion of his own constituency is demanding a change in american policy, not just as a matter of passive american opinion, but there actually willing to really stand up and take significant risks in order to make their voices heard on this issue. so i think it has been incredibly successful so far, and i hope that there's about get our response that we come to understand that you can't beat this protest movement down, that the more you tried to repress it, you only actually have the counter effect and it's time to start listening to the legitimate demands of these protests. there's so i hear you and you like the intensity of the protests and the voices of the many young people and what they are exerting.

>> but we even heard biden this week, who was asked, will this affect policy? will it change policy? he said no. so isn't that what you want you want this to provoke some sort of policy change, or even perhaps changes among university and colleges in terms of how they are being asked to divest. >> look, i mean, president biden has invested in presenting this narrative of administration resilience and clarity on their regardless of what's happening. but clearly, the rhetoric that the conversations that have been leaked behind the scenes show that there is very significant frustration on the part of the president himself about the fact that he's not able to turn public opinion around on this particular issue. overwhelming majority of americans still demanding a ceasefire. and when you look at the the way the uncommitted vote has turned out in michigan. and the fact that this movement is also spreading, the rhetoric might be one thing, but it's clear that president biden is beginning to get more and more frustrated and you see it

reflected in the statements that person it's an biden has issued where initially it was blanket, unconditional support for everything done netanyahu was doing. and at this point, it's far more different that you're seeing the president say, express quite blunt disapproval with the way that netanyahu is handling this and those are signs of the fact that the president and the administration are feeling that pressure and that it's actually making a difference regardless of whether the administration admits that openly or not. >> the washington post is reporting today that many students don't know how much or if at all, certain universities or colleges have holdings to actually divest and if that's the case then how will these demonstrators know whether they're demonstrations, whether the encampments are at all influencing the very campuses where those encampments i have been in terms of divesting if they don't know whether the campus has any holdings at all,

do you worry that the goal i guess there are too many variations of goals and what these demonstrations are already, are really about yeah, look, i mean, what we need primarily is transparency. that's part of how you negotiate with students, is you can look at the case of brown university as a prime example of how you actually should do these things, where the administration saw that a progressive conscientious movement is actually demanding a change and refusing to basically disband these protests and the way that they have responded is by saying, okay, final sit down and negotiate. i'm talking about voting on a resolution in the future about divesting from companies that do that are effectively complicit in israeli atrocities against palestinians. we need more of that transparency and beyond that, even if institutions are not immediately transparent about what investments they do and don't have. i think the voice of this movement goes beyond just the immediate impact on their institutions and effectively showing that this, there's a generational divide in this country that is very, very real, that even

though in the case of brown university, you have billionaires withholding their money and expressing disapproval about the fact about the way that we're granting the wishes of these demonstrators by agreeing to enter in these negotiations. young people are standing there ground. and this is not going to be initiated. it's going to go away that i think should be clear to everyone that the status quo is no longer acceptable, that we need a fundamental change in american policy where we can no longer allow israel to continue behaving however it wants with blanket us support diplomatically militarily, without ever questioning how that support is actually being used and how it's impacting real people. there is a generation that is conscientious that sees palestinians as equal human beings and sees the loss of palestinian life as being no less meaningful than the loss of israeli lives. and that is something that we have not seen in washington. and it's a matter of time before that is reflected because that generational change is very, very real. >> all right. omar bedar, glad you could be with us today. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> a texas congressman and his

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to influence us policy by doing things like inserting favorable language into certain bills and committee reports and also delivering certain speeches on the house floor. now this development comes over two years after the fbi rated both the congressman's home and his campaign office back in january of 2022. >> but the congressman maintains his innocence and says he will run for reelection in november. >> let me read you part of his statement. he said i want to be clear that both my wife and i are innocent of these allegations everything i've done in congress has been to serve the people of south texas. now, we are also getting some reaction from the top democrat in the house that's house minority leader hakeem jeffries. he did announced yesterday that the congressman would temporarily stepped down from his top post on a house appropriations subcommittee. we should note that cuellar is a senior member of that very powerful panel, which has jurisdiction over some key spending and policy decisions.

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core.com. >> all right. q. the bugle, it is called the most exciting two minutes in sports and it's happening later today. the 150th running the kentucky derby is just a few hours away. running the roses right. fans are hoping for a historic finish like the race in 2022, where 80 to one long-shot rich strike surged at the last second to win at the wire. perhaps the historic race back in the 70s where secretariat established himself as the greatest race horse of all time. so what's it gonna be today with me now as marc midland, he is the ceo of horse racing nation. mark great to see you thanks for having me. all right. how excited are you about today? what are you expecting in today's race? >> it's going to be a great race. we've got two big favorites and fear snus and sierra leone. and the opposite styles, fiercest wants to go to the front see you alone, will sit in the back of a furious

finish. so those two look pretty good. and if you're looking for at one shot this year, i can ride. he's number 21 on the outside oh, my gosh. >> you know, this is the 150th, so i mean, it's historic and in that round and i wonder if the crowd size we'll have anything to do or impact on the behavior of the horses, the anxiety, the excitement of any of these horses it says what they know. do you think will they detect that this an especially historic day yeah. >> i mean, there's a lot of excitement. i mean, there's over 150,000 people here. wi-fi is hard to come from. that's why i'm coming to you from the media center. >> and the horse is do feel that excitement. >> there's a lot of buzz a lot of cheering. there's a roar of the crowd when the gate opens and all those horses come out and they're 20 horses in the gate. this is the first time that these horses will race, going amount of quarter against 2019 other horses. so a lot of things that are different, that's why sometimes in the

derby we get funny results like spritz strike at 81. >> what's the weather like? because i think earlier this morning it looked a little wet on the track. might it make a difference at all? the weather the tracks a little wet, it's drying out. i think it'll be a very fast track by time for the derby and a few hours, we had rained yesterday, but it's a little steamy today, but it's beautiful, warm de kentucky oh, lovely. okay. so this race has so much history of course, unit began when andrew johnson was president but is there still a big enough fan base for horse racing to thrive in ami? this is the one that everyone is looking forward to, but i wonder if there's a real barometer in your view? about the level of importance among the fan base of what the tech kentucky derby is all about yeah i mean, harshness has been around a long time, even longer than 150 years the kentucky derby definitely has a great

fan base and it's one of the most swatch sporting events every year. >> and the us about 20 million people watched, watch the derby today and i think there's a great future in horse racing, especially with all the data. so as we move into the world of sports betting and data and ai and things like that. there's a lot of those things that are applicable. the horse racing because there's a ton of data on the horses there remains a cloud or tally it if there does remain this cloud over the kentucky derby, particularly because in recent years there have been a lot of horse deaths. >> there have been some who blamed the footing of the track, others who we'll have talked about doping or perhaps even just over medicating sore horses. what are, what are people chatting about? what's the industry saying today about i guess it's level of concern as it pertains to louisville those derby there's always a level of concern, but all the race has been very safe this

week. >> so what happened last year was hopefully an anomaly that we won't see again for ever. and there's just a ton of work in the industry work in different things to make the track safer to study the things. looking at data, looking at devices analyze horses, scan a more and that's something actually were participating in. we're doing an ai study with churchill downs and the kentucky racing industry, and we're going to 30 years erasing data and trying to analyze what are some of the trends that we can make things even safer? >> all right, mark midland and louisville. thank you so much. looking forward to a safe and always exciting race. >> this evening thanks all right. australia is under siege from climate change on multiple fronts. and things are about to get a lot worse below the ocean's the great barrier reef is in danger as warming waters, bleach the corals, and aboveground wildflowers and a

rather wildfires and floods are destroying people's homes and threatening native species in this week's episode of whole story, cnn's ivan watson embarks on a journey to see the evolving threat firsthand this isn't my first visit to the great barrier reef six years ago, i came here to film a cnn report about this natural wonder of the world. >> armed with only a mask and snorkel that was pretty spectacular this time. >> i'm scuba certified my guide is professor jodi romer a reef scientist at james cook university oh, so gorgeous.

>> i haven't i'm so mvs, that is one of the places that is on my list. i'm a longtime diver as well so i can't wait to hear your impressions here, but i mean, within the industry of scuba diving sport, i mean, there have been great concerns about you know, what's happening with the great barrier reef and the bleaching. and then there's also the psychology of the way in which it will reinvigorate itself. so what we are observations there right? >> well, i mean, it was just spectacular experience to get to scuba dive on this enormous marine habitat. it's the size of italy, this network of coral reefs. i got to swim with sea turtles and reef sharks, but as amazing is that was, it was also bittersweet because my team and i were in australia in mid february. that's the height of the summer in australia. and what we saw at reef after reef were signs of bleaching.

that's when record high ocean temperatures we're cooking the coral turning it bone white. and if it goes on for long enough, killing them and after our visit, the australian government confirmed that the great barrier reef was in the midst of the seventh mass bleaching event on the great barrier reef. and that's part of a planet wide phenomenon over the course of the last year of mass bleaching on reese everywhere from the caribbean off the coast of florida, all the way to australia. so this was awesome but also sad because the scientists are predicting that, for example, my child will not be able to t coral reefs like i did because they won't be alive at the rate that the temperatures are rising. >> oh, my goodness. yeah. i mean, i i do understand that sadness. it's what i felt when i saw some bleaching coral and just coral that was just dead, period off the florida keys, i

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